Episode 195 – NRA and DNA and MLAs

Cue the banjo music. NSW to exhume Joh Bjelke-Peterson and offer him a place in the Upper House where he will feel right at home.

NSW falls in love with the Shooters Party. Mark Latham gets a seat in the Legislative Council. All this in a State with the highest proportion of “NO” voters in the Marriage Equality plebiscite.

You guys are making Queensland look sophisticated!

1:05 One Nation

Pauline Hanson’s One Nation staff have been caught on camera asking the National Rifle Association for $20 million to help water-down Australia’s gun laws, as revealed by an extraordinary Al Jazeera investigation.

Pauline Hanson’s chief of staff James Ashby and One Nation’s Queensland leader Steve Dickson are both filmed meeting figures from the NRA, discussing the threat of Islamic extremism in Australia, and the need for NRA money to help emerge as a pro-gun force.

5:01 NSW Election

cue banjo music…

from Crikey

… the results from rural and regional NSW should induce a feeling of nausea. Not merely is the far-right Shooters Party, which wants to loosen gun laws, expand coal-fired power and hand the Murray-Darling back to irrigators, likely to pick up two more lower house seats, but in the NSW Legislative Council, around 11% of voters statewide saw fit to vote either for the Shooters and One Nation.

… The issue that really hurt the Nats in western NSW was water. The Shooters have dramatically increased their vote promising to bin the Murray-Darling Basin Plan and give irrigators as much water as they want.  The issue is so toxic the Primary Industries Minister Niall Blair abruptly announced he was leaving politics yesterday, despite being re-elected to the upper house.

From the ABC:

13:50 Mark Latham

Has suggested DNA testing for people claiming benefits as aboriginals. His detractors call him racist.

From Media Watch:

Paul Barry

So, what’s the gain in claiming to be Aboriginal?

According to Mark Latham, it is a treasure trove:

MARK LATHAM : There’s special education, health programs, Indigenous-only jobs in New South Wales, $5 billion worth of assets to join a land council in New South Wales. Jeez, there’s plenty of money …

– Sydney Live, 2GB, 12 March, 2019

Now you’d have thought that at this point, he might have faced a few tough questions, like:

Is this really so?

What’s the evidence?

Would DNA testing even work?

And isn’t it an appallingly racist idea?

But the media rarely asked them.

A proper journalist might have sought an Aboriginal point of view, from someone like Warren Mundine, who told Ben Fordham:

WARREN MUNDINE: That is the most bigoted, racist comment I’ve ever heard. Why should Aboriginal people be singled out to be done a DNA test for a welfare payment that every Australian gets.

– Sydney Live, 2GB, 12 March, 2019

A proper journalist might also have sought reaction from the Jewish community – who know all about race-based policies – and put that to Latham. Because its condemnation – in a statement on Facebook – was swift:

“The policy amounts to racial profiling and is fraught with danger. We call on all major political parties to utterly reject this policy”

– Facebook, NSW Jewish Board of Deputies, 12 March, 2019

And ABC Radio asked if DNA tests could actually do the job, prompting Dr Dennis McNevin to explain:

DR DENNIS MCNEVIN: … it all depends on, of having a reliable reference population for Aboriginal Australians and at the moment I don’t, to my knowledge, that doesn’t exist.

– ABC Radio, Statewide (NSW) Drive with Fiona Wyllie, 12 March, 2019

But many of the media canvassed none of those questions, giving One Nation a platform for a policy that is racist, won’t work and is targeting a problem the government says does not exist.

They really should do better.

DNA Facts

We previously mentioned in relation to Elizabeth Warren: The geneticist Graham Coop of the University of California, Davis, and his colleagues have studied how DNA disappears. If you pick one of your ancestors from 10 generations back, the odds are around 50 percent that you carry any DNA from him or her. The odds get even worse beyond that.

From another article:

So, the First Fleet arrived in 1788. That was 231 years ago. If a generation comes along every 25 years that would mean it has been 9.24 generations since the First Fleet.

What is the Test?

From the Australian Institute of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Studies.

In considering the diversity of Indigenous peoples, an official definition of ‘indigenous’ has not been adopted by any United Nations (UN) system or body.

According to the UN the most fruitful approach is to identify rather than define Indigenous peoples. This is based on the fundamental criterion of self-identification as underlined in a number of human rights documents.

Australia’s Indigenous peoples are two distinct cultural groups made up of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples. But there is great diversity within these two broadly described groups exemplified by the over 250 different language groups spread across the nation.

An accepted definition of an Indigenous Australian proposed by the Commonwealth Department of Aboriginal Affairs in the 1980s and still used by some Australian Government departments today is; a person of Aboriginal or Torres Strait Islander descent who identifies as Aboriginal or Torres Strait Islander and is accepted as such by the community in which he or she lives.

To use the term Indigenous Australians or Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people?

It’s best to find out what individuals prefer to be called, rather than making assumptions.

Today, the term ‘Indigenous Australian’ is used to encompass both Aboriginal people and Torres Strait Islander people. However many Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people do not like to be referred to as ‘Indigenous’ as the term is considered too generic.

26:40 The Lord’s Prayer

Mr Andrews said on Wednesday that Parliament might consider rotating the prayer each day to acknowledge the different faith communities of Victoria.

Thanks Bronwyn.

29:08 Christians Like Us

Two part observational series Christians Like Us will air in April on SBS.

It will see 10 Christians, from Catholic, Anglican and Pentecostal faiths all living under on roof for a week in Bella Vista in north-western Sydney.

Produced by CJZ, this is the follow-up to Muslims Like Us.

SBS Director of TV and Online Content Marshall Heald said: “Christians Like Us explores what it means to be Christian in Australia in 2019. The 10 participants showcase a diverse range of views, and are each deeply passionate and opinionated about their faith. Through debate and discussion, the series invites Australians to engage with the complex elements of Christianity and the issues currently facing the faith.”

‘This is not us!’: Destiny Church’s Brian Tamaki slams Muslim call to prayer

Destiny Church’s Brian Tamaki has slammed the Muslim call to prayer which will take place at 1.30pm today.

Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern announced the prayer would take place to recognise the lives lost in the Christchurch terrorist attacks last Friday.

Ardern said the prayer would be followed by two minutes of silence at 1.32pm.

“Two minutes of silence is okay but the Islamic prayer will sound? it contains this line ‘there is no God but Allah’, well I disagree,” Tamaki wrote on Twitter.

“Jesus Christ is the only true God … this is not us!”

Some online commenters were confused by Tamaki’s comment Jesus Christ was the “only true God”.

“Brian, he was the son of God, he called God his father. Please read that book again. Properly,” said one person.

“Jesus Christ is God?? Blimey that’s different,” said another.

Tamaki also created shockwaves in 2016 after he blamed the cause of the Kaikoura earthquakes on homosexuals.

31:33 Human Domestication

Homosexuality is a by-product of human domestication.

38:13 Major New Zealand bookstore bans Jordan Peterson’s book in a shocking act of censorship

Whitcoulls, a major New Zealand bookstore with 50 shops nationwide, has removed Dr. Jordan Peterson’s best selling self-help book 12 Rules for Life from their shelves in the wake of the deadliest terrorist attack in the country’s history.

And it comes directly after Cambridge University’s decision to rescind their offer of a two-month visiting fellowship for Peterson.

The tweet features a screenshot of a customer service rep’s email to an enquiring customer. In it, the rep named Erica writes, “Unfortunately, 12 Rules for Life is currently unavailable, which is a decision that Whitcoulls has made in light of some extremely disturbing material being circulated prior, during, and after the Christchurch attacks. As a business which takes our responsibilities to our communities very seriously, we believe it would be wrong to support the author at this time.”

Monroe pointed in the same Twitter thread that Hitler’s Mein Kampf remains on Whitcoulls shelves. A brief browse of Whitcoulls’ inventory reveals that they are selling Mao’s Little Red Book. They also haven’t pulled all of the books Peterson is associated with, just the major sellers. Vox Day—an actual member of the alt-right—still has his book available in Whitcoulls stores.

40:36 The Haka

Is it cultural appropriation when white people do it?

43:14 Inter-generational commitments

In New Zealand, it took one mass shooting to awaken the government. In the United States, even a string of mass killings — 26 dead in a school in Newtown, Conn.; 49 in a nightclub in Orlando; 58 at a concert in Las Vegas; 17 in a school in Parkland, Fla. — has not been enough. Nor has the fact that 73 percent of Americans say that more needs to be done to curb gun violence, according to recent polling.

47:51 Social Democracies Top Global Happiness Index Again; U.S. Falls Again

The social democracy of Finland was once again ranked number one on the United Nations’ World Happiness Report, released on Wednesday, while the corporate-dominated United States fell one place to rank at 19th.

49:20 Hindu man who ate mislabelled beef demands to be flown to India for cleansing

A Hindu man who claims he ate beef which was mislabelled as lamb is asking for the supermarket he purchased it from to pay for his flights home to undergo a cleanse.

Jaswinder Paul told Stuff.co.nz he purchased the meat from Countdown in Blenheim on New Zealand’s South Island in September.

It was labelled as lamb but was actually beef, and he ate it. Cows are considered sacred to Hindus and can’t be consumed.

Mr Paul said he needs to be purified by priests in a process of between four to six weeks back in New Delhi, India. It will also mean he has to close his barbershop over that period.

“I understand this looks like a simple matter, but for me this is very hard. I break my religion (vows) because of someone else’s negligence,” he said.

“I know my society back from my home will not accept me with this breach of the religion’s conditions.”

A Countdown spokesperson confirmed to Yahoo7 there had been a mistake with beef mince labelled as lamb due to an error with the in-store labelling machine.

51:52 A patient told he was going to die via robot doctor

There are but two constants in modern America: the health system is always going to be bad and robots will eventually push everyone to the unemployment line. Overnight, the not-too-distant future inched a little bit closer when one family were told that their elderly relative would not survive…via a telepresence robot.

How many people does it take to own 50% of the world

Oxfam’s latest report claims that income inequality has reached a new global extreme, exceeding even its predictions from the previous year. The figures behind this claim are striking – just 62 individuals now hold the same wealth as the bottom half of humanity, compared to 80 in 2014 and 388 in 2010. It appears not only has the financial crisis been weathered by the global elite, but that their fortunes have collectively improved.

Richest 1% on target to own two-thirds of all wealth by 2030

An alarming projection produced by the House of Commons library suggests that if trends seen since the 2008 financial crash were to continue, then the top 1% will hold 64% of the world’s wealth by 2030. Even taking the financial crash into account, and measuring their assets over a longer period, they would still hold more than half of all wealth.

Since 2008, the wealth of the richest 1% has been growing at an average of 6% a year – much faster than the 3% growth in wealth of the remaining 99% of the world’s population. Should that continue, the top 1% would hold wealth equating to $305tn (£216.5tn) – up from $140tn today.


2 comments on “Episode 195 – NRA and DNA and MLAs
  1. Warren Foster says:

    Nice one guys.
    Loved the bit about breeding homosexual foxes. Good water cooler conversation fodder.
    Will send beer ASAP.

  2. Bronwyn Benn says:

    Hi guys,

    Woz beat me to it again. 🙂

    I have been keeping my own counsel about this issue for some time, but now I really must take issue with you over your claim that programs and grants which provide specific assistance to Indigenous people are ‘racist’.

    I note that you are in favour of disadvantaged people receiving additional assistance. I don’t believe that it is very difficult to argue that many, or even most, Indigenous people are disadvantaged simply because they are Indigenous. There is quite a lot of evidence to support this contention and I have included only a few examples below.

    • Indigenous people are over-represented in the prison population (15 times more likely to be imprisoned than the non-Indigenous population).
    • The life expectancy of Indigenous people is around 10 years less than that of non-Indigenous Australians.
    • The unemployment rate of Indigenous adults is currently just over 50%, compared with just under 25% of non-Indigenous Australians.
    • The Indigenous suicide rate is about twice that of non-Indigenous Australians. The greatest difference in suicide rates is in the 20-29 age group.

    My source for the above is the Australian Human Rights Commission, however the same information can be found in many different places, based on verifiable and credible research data.

    There are some signs of improvement, eg. the life expectancy and general health of Indigenous Australians is slowly improving, as is the proportion of Indigenous school students completing their secondary education. So at least some of these ‘racist’ programs you speak of are actually working. 😊

    Non-Indigenous people sometimes mistakenly assume that there are many such programs in existence and that a king’s ransom awaits any Indigenous person who can fill out a form. I’ve even heard some people assert that the government just gives away houses, cars etc. to Aboriginal people. Having worked in government for many years, I can assure you emphatically that this is not the case. Assistance programs focus on people who, while they must be Indigenous to qualify, are actually disadvantaged in some other significant way, usually in terms of income or employment. The taxpayer dollars allocated to these programs are limited, as they are for all government programs, and so the intention is to give them out to those most in need. Believe me, our governments are not so generous.

    I agree that more resources should be directed to the disadvantaged, however I would contend that the evidence supports my view that most Indigenous Australians are already very disadvantaged. It would be great if the world was a completely level playing field; if it were, we would have no need of the ‘discriminatory’ and ‘racist’ legislation you referred to. But unfortunately the reality is somewhat different. Australia has, and always has had, serious issues with racism, and not just in relation to Indigenous people – ask anyone who has arrived here from a non-English speaking country in the last 20-30 years. The intention behind the policies and programs which try to correct this disadvantage for at least some Indigenous people is to give them opportunities which don’t exist when society is left to its own devices. The same applies to some of the affirmative actions which have been taken in past years in relation to things like the representation of women in Australian parliaments (eg. the Labor Party’s 50% representation target program) and membership of women on corporate boards. These have been reasonably successful overall. I happen to think that Indigenous Australians deserve the same chances.

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