Episode 122 – Yes, let’s talk about so called “Religious Freedom”
No surprises for guessing that we kick off with a discussion over the
result of the marriage equality survey. Interestingly, the No vote
was strongest in the western suburbs of Sydney that feature a large
10:21 We talk about the draft bill presented by James Paterson and the
nature of the exemptions that he is seeking and we also look at the
attitude of the Sydney Anglican Church and the Catholic Church to these
exemptions. David Marr in an article says that those institutions will
not push for the James Paterson style amendments. We reveal a survey
which unfortunately shows that many Australians would seemingly agree
with the James Paterson amendments.
15:11 The 12th Man and The Iron Fist engage in another round of debate
regarding businesses and their entitlement to discriminate against
various people in various circumstances.
51:25 The Iron Fist is dismayed at attempts to connect aboriginal kinship with
changes to marriage equality laws.
1:08:55 The citizenship fiasco continues.
1:10:25 The Atheist convention has been cancelled.
1:15:08 The TPP is back
1:16:38 New Zealanders are looking at changing their prayer.
1:18:24 No more smokes being sold by The Vatican
1:19:30 A Church is a great place to die.
1:21:42 Celibacy laws to cease in Brazil?
1:23:07 Landon Hardbottom sent a link about the slippery slope and assisted dying.
1:27:52 The Adani mine
YES 7,817,247 votes; 61%
NO 4,873,987 votes; 38.4%
Whether it is 4 Corners on the Liberal Party and Karina Alcatel, James Paterson on special exemptions or our favourite Catholic, Kristina Kinnealy – our listeners are ahead of the game.
Though wide-ranging “conscience” exemptions are the dream of ultra-conservatives and a handful of smaller churches, the big players in the marriage contest know the votes aren’t there in parliament and that, once the public took a closer look at the proposals support, for them would die away. http://marker.to/9HJjWW
The director of the Melbourne Archdiocese’s marriage office has raised concerns that legalising same-sex marriage will restrict freedom to talk and teach about a Catholic view of marriage, http://marker.to/w5pBUQ
With everything from mortgage lenders to trucking companies asserting they are being guided by “Christian principles,” isn’t it just a matter of time before a so-called Christian company refuses someone a mortgage or a move because of their “sinful lifestyle”? http://marker.to/IhaN7r
James Paterson – wide ranging exemptions but only if directly related to a wedding service (because weddings are so special in James’s hierarchy of sacredness but wouldn’t praying to a false god be even worse? A Muslim might want to refuse supplying wafers to a Catholic church knowing they were going to be transubstantiated)
If freedom of religion is not enough let’s add protection of Aboriginal traditional culture
Christian Indigenous Australians have warned the government they have been overlooked in the marriage debate http://marker.to/G8hPQA and Marriage Equality would interfere with Aboriginal Culture and Identity
Q. A few months ago the “Uluru Statement” was released, calling for a number of policy measures relating to Indigenous Australians.
Do you support or oppose the following measures?
Jacqui Lambie has 3 citizenships. She was keen to embrace her Aboriginal ancestry but not so much her Scottish ancestry.
One Nation replacement Senator now Independent. “Fraser Anning was not flanked by One Nation Senators when he first entered the Senate to be sworn in this morning. He was instead accompanied by David Leyonhjelm and Cory Bernardi.”
The Zeitgeist (/ˈzaɪtɡaɪst/) (spirit of the age or spirit of the time; literally, “time ghost”) is the dominant set of ideals and beliefs that motivate the actions of the members of a society in a particular period in time.
Hi There podcasters. About Anastasia (“Palace Chook”) and her Adani veto. From the start I thought it was very clever (sneaky) and I have been waiting for the papers to propose the same conclusions that I have drawn. • That she said it was about a “conflict of interest” so she did not have to say it was about bowing to public pressure. The ABC has already drawn this conclusion in an article released yesterday. http://www.abc.net.au/news/
2017-11-09/public-opinion- poll-behind-adani -loan-backflip-curtis-pitt/ 9134584 • That she timed it so she could not actually carry out the decision. As parliament is dissolved, she needs the support of Tim Nicholls for this decision to carry though. I think this is cunning, as she placates her voters in Brisbane AND she gets to shift the blame to the coalition. If they support it ( a loan veto), THEIR voters get angry at them. If they don’t, she can say to her voters “Well, I tried!”. Call me cynical, but hey, it is a win-win for her. As in this Sydney Herald article, Anastasia has built her campaign around a quiet, no-nonsense head down bum up get the job done attitude. Now, she looks sneaky. http://www.smh.com.au/comment/ that-thinking-feeling/ annastacia-palaszc zuks-adani-problem-20171108- gzhk80.html Load rifle (check), aim at foot (check), FIRE! Not that I support the mine. I hate it! But she should have done this before dissolving parliament. Cheers Brett (my two cents)
From Landon Hardbottom Fact check: Has assisted dying been a legal slippery slope overseas? http://marker.to/3r3dwq